That's awfully kind of the Edgewood Spencers.
I'll check with my air guy about that price on the install.
By the way, how old is your unit?
Will it fit in the minivan?
We don't have a date on the calendar to go back but obviously someone needs to go when things get repaired.
Have either of y'all had thoughts about Thanksgiving and Christmas? In town-out of town?
From: Cliff Spencer <cliff@alasaw.com>
Date: Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 12:01 PM
To: Thomas Spencer <tspencer@planetbama.com>
Cc: margaretcobbs@gmail.com <margaretcobbs@gmail.com>, Spencer Sibling Council <spencersiblingcouncil@NETORGFT3720483.onmicrosoft.com>, planetbama.beach@blogger.com <planetbama.beach@blogger.com>
Subject: Re: To do list on the insurance/Beach projectComfort solutions confirmed that the AC condenser we have taken out of service at our house is a match for the one we need to replace. Same size, and they will charge $1000 to install it. So that's saves us having to buy a new unit for $4k. We just need a volunteer to take it down there the next time they go.
The only other cost savings idea on this would be to ask Dwayne if that install price seems high, and if he'd recommend anyone else.
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On Oct 20, 2020, at 9:37 PM, Thomas Spencer <tspencer@planetbama.com> wrote:
I scanned the contents of that binder.
But we should send Margaret down to measure.
From: Margaret Cobbs <margaretcobbs@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 8:26 PM
To: cliff spencer <cliff@alasaw.com>
Cc: Thomas Spencer <tspencer@planetbama.com>, Spencer Sibling Council <spencersiblingcouncil@NETORGFT3720483.onmicrosoft.com>, planetbama.beach@blogger.com <planetbama.beach@blogger.com>
Subject: Re: To do list on the insurance/Beach projectI do not, sorry! Probably in that binder down at the beach. Maybe I should go check... :-)
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 8:07 PM Cliff Spencer <cliff@alasaw.com> wrote:
Do either of you have receipts for the latest beach house AC condenser replacements?
Ours has been replaced and is in perfectly good condition, so hoping we could reuse it for the beach house. But it may be too small, so need to know what model we use down there.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 8, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Margaret Cobbs <margaretcobbs@gmail.com> wrote:
I started working on flooring research and created this document in the Drive. Y'all feel free to add any opinions you have, or materials I haven't considered. I was surprised to see that materials are basically in a similar ballpark costwise. There might be some differences in labor for installation. This is just preliminary research, I'll keep looking into it.
I spoke with Sallie, who weighed in on a couple options, noted in the doc. She will also have Craig look for a Spencer beach house file at the shop. I told her not to look too hard, as she indicated it was in a different location, but might have good measurements and original materials. She has a sample at the shop of Tarkett linoleum that I can look at or pick up if I go by the shop.
My initial thought is to go with some sort of linoleum in the hallways, and pine/wood on the stairs, since from what I read you can't use linoleum on the stairs.
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 2:11 PM Thomas Spencer <tspencer@planetbama.com> wrote:
I finally got a call back from USAA adjuster
The Demolition and repair of damaged, wet areas will be covered.
The mechanics of this are as follows (from what I understand)
- Dewayne spells out in an estimate what it will cost to remediate and repair and submits to USAA
- USAA reviews and approves, disapproves, or negotiates
- USAA cuts a check to Mom and Dad for amount (minus deductible and what has been sent)
- Dewayne does the work. We pay Dewayne
The one rub she was firm on was the damaged carpet. She was firm about the policy not paying for matching.
USAA will pay to replace carpet in halls and north stairs. We can try to submit the cost of new alternative flooring. We may get push back. And at this moment we will not get help for south stairs and bedroom.
I'm going to look at the question of painting to match which could be an issue.
Good plan on the AC.
From: Cliff Spencer <cliff@alasaw.com>
Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 1:06 PM
To: Thomas Spencer <tspencer@planetbama.com>
Cc: Spencer Sibling Council <spencersiblingcouncil@NETORGFT3720483.onmicrosoft.com>, "planetbama.beach@blogger.com" <planetbama.beach@blogger.com>
Subject: Re: To do list on the insurance/Beach project
- Are we in agreement that this is the prudent and necessary thing to do to prevent long-term problems?
Yes, I agree that it is necessary and prudent.
Update, I gave Dwayne the go ahead to proceed with drywall/insulation demo, per tom and my conversation last night.
Slight change to the AC plan, per Dwayne's advice: He will secure the shifted unit before the storm. Comfort solutions will come out next wednesday and remove the units. Dwayne's crew will be there that day to demo and rebuild the AC platform, so that comfort solutions can reinstall the same day.
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On Oct 6, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Thomas Spencer <tspencer@planetbama.com> wrote:
Follow up to conversation with Cliff.
Cliff, will talk to Comfort Solutions tomorrow morning.
- Get them to remove and store the air conditioning units in advance of the storm?
- That allows Dewayne to rebuild the platform and keeps the units safe from new storm
- Damaged unit will likely fall apart on removal, triggering $4,000 replacement cost.
- Ask whether in their opinion the denting and shifting of outdoor unit was storm related and whether that justifies it being replace and covered by insurance (doubtful. The thing looks like it was ready to fall apart anyway)
- Find out whether the failure of the attic unit was, in their opinion, storm related.
- At a minimum, I think we can justify the storage and rebuilt of the platform as storm repair related
Tom will continue to transmit information to USAA
- We did get a check in the mail from USAA that is now deposited in mom and dad's account
- I got what I consider the go ahead to remove sheetrock and insultation where the moisture readings are high
- Are we in agreement that this is the prudent and necessary thing to do to prevent long-term problems?
Margaret we need your feedback on that and hope you can take a research and decision-making role in the flooring decisions
- Carpet
- Scenario 1: USAA agrees to pay for the replacement of all carpet. Cheapest option.
- Scenerio 2. USAA only pays for hallways and front stairs.
i. Do we put down carpet that matches the existing carpet as close as possible?
ii. How much of the rest do we pay to replace?
iii. Do we leave the bedrooms carpeted and replace the hallways and stairs with wood or alternative?
- Can we get USAA to cover the difference?
- Are we willing to pay the difference in exchange for the advantages of cleanup and damage resistance?
- What is the best replacement option?
- Wood?
i. What kind?
From: Cliff Spencer <cliff@alasaw.com>
Date: Monday, October 5, 2020 at 10:42 AM
To: Thomas Spencer <tspencer@planetbama.com>
Cc: Spencer Sibling Council <spencersiblingcouncil@NETORGFT3720483.onmicrosoft.com>, "planetbama.beach@blogger.com" <planetbama.beach@blogger.com>
Subject: Re: To do list on the insurance/Beach project
Hey ya'll,
Here is the link to the folder I created on the Spencer google drive for my pics or moisture reading I made with Dwayne: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1eAABd_0LgtMOnvJIFTsSuo4hLksBI3S8?usp=sharing
There are comments attached to each one showing the location and the moisture readings and other comments. This is best viewed from google drive on the web rather than opening the images in Preview or another app. I think my comments only show up on the web.
What these moisture reading indicate is that all interior drywall and wood paneling on exterior walls needs to be removed, the insulation removed, so that the walls can dry. If they are not removed, the wall and insulation will dry out, but because of the moisture, mold will develop and continue to grow, as it has already started in several locations. This is the contractors recommendation, and I agree.
If we decide not to open up all the walls, we could roll the dice, but we'll likely end up with black mold and is hard to remove and will be even more costly if it's allowed to grow for any length of time. Better to pressure USAA to cover it (we've surely paid them enough in premiums) and get it done.
The exterior sheathing on the underside of the house needs to be removed as well.
Once this is complete, we wait about two weeks for it to dry out. Then it can all be treated for mold and cleaned. Then we can start the process of replacing insulation, drywall and painting.
On the flooring/replacing carpet, we need to get USAA to cover replacing all the carpet, as anything new will not match the existing. As an improvement, per the contractors recommendation, we should consider wood flooring or "LifeProof Vinyl" (google that) as an alternative. Both are better options that tile, which can trap moisture in the sublayers. I am NOT saying we need to replace the tile floor in the beach side downstairs and upstairs. That should dry out well enough once we remove exterior sheathing.
Additional asks for USAA to cover:
-Painting of all walls in order to match new/repaired walls
-Cabinetry to be reset in the laundry room and kitchen
-Storage Pod rental to store the furniture during renovation
-Clean up or everything
-Dumpster costs
Assuming this all goes well with USAA and contractor's schedules, we will need to decide on paint colors. I guess it's an opportunity to rethink interior furniture, replace mattresses and other things that have been on our lists.
Pretty overwhelming, but we can do it! Step by step.
I will put up the hurricane shutters before leaving, as it looks like we have more storms on the way. Yikes!
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On Oct 2, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Thomas Spencer <tspencer@planetbama.com> wrote:
Oct. 2, 2020
Make sure the air conditioner is fixed and running at the right level and the house is sealed up and dehumidified.
I have an additional dehumidifier for you to take down.
Fans as well.
Reinspect for new mild growth in hidden corners. I didn't kill the mold in the utility closet. If Dewayne and crew didn't tear that out it should be treated with bleach. There is bleach down there.
Review the adjuster's report.
Walk through the house and look for additional mold, etc.
Walk through the house with DeWayne and identify what really needs to be done.
If you have time before you leave, we can go over the adjuster's report.
We have to identify what he's left off, and what we can legitimately claim beyond what he has identified.
We need to present a counter proposal.
We need to decide what we are going to do about replacement flooring.
Keep paint colors
Examine Doors front and back
Kitchen stairs
Utility closet under the stairs
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Thursday, October 22, 2020
Re: To do list on the insurance/Beach project
Wow, that's exciting about the condenser. We all love a good recycle/reuse story!
As for the holidays, we have no travel plans so far. Fauci says we're not supposed to gather indoor in large groups for the holidays. :-) I'd love to do a family holiday hike with cousins. If the weather is good I'm up for eating outdoors and/or on our screened porch, but that would be a game time decision based on the forecast. That always gets me stuck in my thoughts/planning.
How is everyone else feeling about indoor gatherings?
On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 12:14 PM Thomas Spencer <tspencer@planetbama.com> wrote:
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